I’ve always like the Joggers that comes from Amazon Essentials. They are cheap but they can take the abuse. I’m 5’8” and got three of different colors, went with large. Although I am happy with large, the whole Idea, well to me, for a jogger pant is that, your ankles must be seen or part of your socks. The bottom seam be like an inch on top of your ankle. With that being said, The large is loose for me, the jogger sit at my waist. I didn’t return it, all the ones I ordered. They are just that awesome. Gonna order a medium size one and gonna see if it makes a difference. I keep on pulling up my pants even using a belt, the strings as well. My butt got flatten over the years the pants can’t find a “hold” lmao.