I bought the black on black ones. Let me explain something about the pair that arrived, I fought semi pro for 5 years in what would become the MMA scene, ADIDAS sponsored me and I got a lot of really nice, free gear from them. It was really incredible stuff, and it wasn't the kind of gear they sell to the general public. If you think the exorbitantly priced fleeces and velour you buy at outlets and Academy are on par with what athletes get, you're very, very wrong. From the dimensions to the fabric, we get different stuff.These pants are very, very close to the kind of fleece we got, and the feel and look is totally on par with the jumpers they used to send me. They're a little long, they're supposed to be, they're baggy, they're supposed to be, they look and feel great, like they're supposed to. I"m 6'2 and weigh bout 240, I'm a little pudgy in my old age but still have a fairly athletic build and these are wonderful on me.